What you wanna do is, you want to enter into a conversation
So, that you come out
Wiser
Than you went in
The best example of this is when you're having an argument with your
Intimate partner, let's say
Cause you gonna wanna win
So, then you got to think
Okay, well wait a second, we better sort out what winning means here
So, let's say that
You're more verbally fluent than your partner and more treacherous
So, you can win
That doesn’t mean you’re right
First of all
Winning when you're wrong is a really bad idea
Because then
You think you’re right
And you’re not

And then
Maybe the person can see things you can't but can't verbalize them quite as well
Well, you might want to listen
Just cause
There is possibility that they’re trying to tell you how to not run headlong into a brick wall
There is some possibility of that
And so maybe you even have to help them formulate
It's like ”Okay I don't get exactly what you're saying.”
”I don't get exactly why you're annoyed”
”I'm not sure exactly what you want me to do to change it.”
”Let's get this clear.”
And then I’m going to think about it
Like maybe you're right
Maybe you're right
I’m going to see, if possibly you’re right
I’m not going to roll over
Because I would rather you weren’t right
I’m not going to change
But I am going to listen
I would rather not
Run
Headlong into a brick wall
If I don’t have to
So, that’s the idea with the conversation