SameOldShawn: How'd you get Big to be so filthy on the record?

R.A. the Rugged Man: Well, because what happened was Big showed up at the studio. I had already had my lyrics laid down. He took a car out to Long Island

SOS: For our listeners who don't know, his great duet with Big is called "Cunt Renaissance."

RA: It's really foul and disgusting, and I purposely made it so foul and disgusting to piss off the record label, because they wanted me to make a commercial song with Big. They wanted me to make something that they could get played all over the radio nationwide. So I said, okay, I'll do that for you. And I said, what's the most disgusting, disgusting lyric I could think of?

It was right around the time when Lorena Bobbit chopped off her husband's dick and got away with it

SOS: Yeah

RA: I said, yo, imagine if you ripped some bitch's cunt out with a spoon? You'd go to jail for life! How the fuck she's allowed to cut off a dick and do three months? That's crazy!

So I said, "Rip a cunt out with a spoon"? Oh shit, you can't get any more disgusting than that! [Raps] "I'll rip your cunt out with spoons."

SOS: So when Big walked in, he didn't know the concept behind the record?

RA: Well, Big already had the beat. He already wrote something, and he knew it was a sex record. He said, "I know from fucking with you, it's gonna be some wild shit." But then when he showed up, he's like, "Yo, your label's letting you say that?" I said, "Yeah." He's like, "Alright. Give me a couple and let me rewrite my shit, get a little crazier." So he smoked a little blunt and he sat there for a couple hours and rewrote his shit, and went in the booth