SameOldShawn: So how'd you hook up with Pharcyde?

Paul Stewart: That's a funny story. I was at this convention in San Francisco called the Gavin Convention.

SameOldShawn: A radio convention, right?

Paul Stewart: Yep, college radio. It's a big deal for us, cuz the college radio is how a lot of the stuff was being played around the country, and we didn't have access to the major radio stations - they weren't playing it - so I was at the Gavin Convention, and we were in this room partying. It was like 1 or 2 in the morning, we're smoking and we're drinking, everyone's really faded, and Razz Caz, who was a dancer at that time, and the Pharcyde were dancers, and knew the Pharcyde, and he brought em up to the room as he worked with this guy Lono Brazil whose room it was they were hanging out in. He brought 'em in, and Razz was like "Yeah, these guys rap" or whatever, and Lono - and there was a guy from Tommy Boy in the room, a marketing guy - and for some reason Lono said, "Well, I just got House of Pain their deal." "Yeah you should rap, this guy gets dudes record deals!" And they got in this little huddle, and they came out, and they started doing a song about "Your mama's so fat she ate 22 burritos" and they're jumping up on top of the bed and everything, and we're just dying. We're already high as a kite, and we're in there just laughing. So I got their number, and I remember the next day thinking, "Were they really any good or we just so faded?"